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			Du hast anscheinend viel Ahnung davon. Ausdrcke wie &quot;rofl&quot; disqualifizieren dich sowieso gleich, von daher ist das schon ok.<br />
Ich denke, bzw. ich wei, dass ich etwas tiefer in der Materie drin bin als viele andere. Anhand deiner von Fachwissen untermauerten Begrndung &quot;bei einem Game wie Anno ganz sicher nicht&quot; nehme ich an, dass auch ich etwas mehr von dem verstehe, was ich erzhle. Ungeachtet der Tatsache, dass Anno detailreich bis zum gehtnichtmehr ist...Anderes Thema. Wenn du keine Ahnung hast, dann hr auf zu spekulieren. Ich verlange ja nicht einmal, dass du postest &quot;Ich habe keine Ahnung, gebe aber trotzdem meinen Senf dazu&quot;, vielmehr mchte ich, dass Menschen, die zu einem bestimmten Thema nichts Konstruktives beitragen knnen, einfach ihre Finger, bzw. Gesichtsmuskeln still halten.<br />
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Ich denke, bzw. ich wei, dass ich etwas tiefer in der Materie drin bin als viele andere. Anhand deiner von Fachwissen untermauerten Begrndung &quot;bei einem Game wie Anno ganz sicher nicht&quot; nehme ich an, dass auch ich etwas mehr von dem verstehe, was ich erzhle. Ungeachtet der Tatsache, dass Anno detailreich bis zum gehtnichtmehr ist...Anderes Thema. Wenn du keine Ahnung hast, dann hr auf zu spekulieren. Ich verlange ja nicht einmal, dass du postest &quot;Ich habe keine Ahnung, gebe aber trotzdem meinen Senf dazu&quot;, vielmehr mchte ich, dass Menschen, die zu einem bestimmten Thema nichts Konstruktives beitragen knnen, einfach ihre Finger, bzw. Gesichtsmuskeln still halten.<br />
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</div>Franky was labberst du fr Quatsch sorry, du drckst Dich zwar grammatisch kreativ aus aber leider 50% Mist. Die brauchen 100% net lnger als 2 Monate Maximum 3, zumal die sichr schon lnger an dem Modus arbeiten auch schon vor Release. Das solltest Du eigentlich wissen oder?. Wrde mich brennend intressieren wo Du den genau in der Materie drinnen steckst. Ich arbeite unter anderem auch in dem Gebiet aber als Musik Produzent, und ich weiss in etwa wie lange das dauert. Zudem zock ich schon seit 24 Jahren, und hab schon paarmal mitbekommen wie lange es dauert einen MP MOD nachzureichen. Zumal Anno dann auch wieder net sooo komplex ist wie andere Online Spiele. Komm gerade von der Studio Arbeit nach Hause und muss in die Heia, deswegen lass ich weitere Kommentare fr heute.
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			Ich finds auch schade das es keinen MP gibt <img src="images/smilies/frown.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Frown" class="inlineimg" /> hab mich immer wieder mitn paar Kumpels getroffen und bers Wochenende 1701 gezockt <img src="images/smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Groes Grinsen" class="inlineimg" /> teils ohne zu schlafen^^<br />
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			Selber LOL, natrlich haben die Tester, bezahlte Tester, aber du willst mir doch nicht ernsthaft wei machen dass sich da hunderte Fans als kostenlose Freiwillige zum Test anmelden. In MMORPGs ist sowas zwar gang und gebe, aber von einem ffentlichen Betatest von Anno habe ich komischerweise nichts mitbekommen. Testen bei Anno kostet Geld, anders als bei Community-Mods und MORPGs, wo das die Fans in ihrer Freizeit kostenlos erledigen.<br />
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Gerade du als Musikproduzent, der schon seit 24 Jahren privat zockt, also nehme ich mal an einigermaen alt ist (also ein bisschen lter als ich), solltest eigentlich genug Erfahrung von Betriebswitschaft haben, um zu wissen, dass man nicht einfach immer mit Geld um sich schmeien kann wie Heu, nur weil Chef nen dicken Bentley fhrt. Klar sind manche Sparmanahmen albern, aber ein solches Feature rauslassen (und in dem ich gesagt habe zwei drei Leute bin ich schon von einer extrem billigen Angelegenheit ausgegangen) kann eben deutlich Geld sparen, bei einem halben Jahr zwei drei Festgehlter hat man in dem Bereich auch mal nen halben Bentley zusammen. <img src="images/smilies/wink.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Wink" class="inlineimg" /> <br />
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			Herrlich diese Diskusion... Es geht nur um einen popligen MP... aber das scheinen viele wohl nicht verstanden zu haben.<br />
Desweiteren sollte man sich ersteinmal informieren - wie lange so ein &quot;einfacher&quot; MP, Wie es 1701 schon hatte, wirklich bentigt.<br />
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Und wenn das Game 1mon. spter kommt, wie verzweifelt und nerdig muss man sein geiwsse Spiele SOFORT - AUF DER STELLE haben<br />
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Stell dir/bzw. euch vor, Blizzard arbeit 5Jahre an ihren spielen... da kommt aber 100% Qualitt raus und sogar ein MP <img src="images/smilies/wink.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Wink" class="inlineimg" />
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			1. der SP von Blizzardspielen ist an einem Tag durchgespielt, bei Blizzardspielen ist seit StarCraft und Diablo2 der MP nicht ein sondern <b><b>Das</b></b> Spielkonzept.<br />
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				<div style="font-style:italic">Selber LOL, natrlich haben die Tester, bezahlte Tester, aber du willst mir doch nicht ernsthaft wei machen dass sich da hunderte Fans als kostenlose Freiwillige zum Test anmelden. In MMORPGs ist sowas zwar gang und gebe, aber von einem ffentlichen Betatest von Anno habe ich komischerweise nichts mitbekommen. Testen bei Anno kostet Geld, anders als bei Community-Mods und MORPGs, wo das die Fans in ihrer Freizeit kostenlos erledigen.<br />
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Gerade du als Musikproduzent, der schon seit 24 Jahren privat zockt, also nehme ich mal an einigermaen alt ist (also ein bisschen lter als ich), solltest eigentlich genug Erfahrung von Betriebswitschaft haben, um zu wissen, dass man nicht einfach immer mit Geld um sich schmeien kann wie Heu, nur weil Chef nen dicken Bentley fhrt. Klar sind manche Sparmanahmen albern, aber ein solches Feature rauslassen (und in dem ich gesagt habe zwei drei Leute bin ich schon von einer extrem billigen Angelegenheit ausgegangen) kann eben deutlich Geld sparen, bei einem halben Jahr zwei drei Festgehlter hat man in dem Bereich auch mal nen halben Bentley zusammen. <img src="images/smilies/wink.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Wink" class="inlineimg" /> <br />
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Und wie gesagt, so gesichert sind Einnahmen nun auch nicht immer. George Broussards Ausruf, er werde notfalls Duke Nukem 4ever ohne Publisher bzw. als eigener Publisher rausbringen, wenn er nur so alle Features des Spiels, die er haben will, zur Produktreife bringen kann, ist legendr; wie das geendet ist, wissen wir heute. <img src="images/smilies/wink.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Wink" class="inlineimg" /></div>
			
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</div>Also von BW hab ich eigentlich net so nen Plan (Komponist), weil dafr mein Kollege verantwortlich ist <img src="images/smilies/wink.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Wink" class="inlineimg" />. Aber ich hab genug Ahnung das ich weiss wieviel die bei all den Anno Reihen eingenommen haben, und glaub mir es ist sehr viel. Aber letzten Endes kann mann ewig diskutieren. Ich geb Dir sogar  bei manchen Punkten Recht, die Du angesprochen hast. <br />
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Oder meinst du <b><i>Ironisch</i></b><br />
Oder meinst du <i><b>Sarkastisch</b></i><br />
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Falls <i><b>Sadonisch</b></i> ein Zwitter aus den beiden sein soll wre dein Text &quot;Nicht bse gemeint&quot;<br />
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