Silverstone FLP02 - Ihre erfahrungen? Thema in Englisch sprache

BoggledBeagle

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Hello Deutsche Freunde, I am writing here because i am temporarilly banned on Techpowerup site because an argument with the moderator, who deleted my thread without any real reason (beside he did not like the topic) and he felt offended because I argued and wanted to know what forum rule I broke. It is a shame.

Anyway, I got this new cool case and found a flaw with the design - the PSU can draw the air only from below, through a dense filter, and the case also has very small feet and you cannot use it on the carpet at all. I made a video about it:


Also, my case has a few manufacturing flaws. For example, it appears that they used some temporary crappy foam on the feet and on the PSU pads - I cannot imagine that this is the final material. Also the Turbo button gets stuck in the panel body, the rubber from the GPU holder came stuck on the warranty paper instead of the holder and I also discovered a flaw in the metal of the side panel.

Did I just get a lemon or early production unit? How does your case look like?

The case was not exactly cheap to forgive these flaws.
 
i´m shure, in case of manufactoring flaws exists a whole jurirstic branche for regulating customer complains.
wherever you live. i´m shure, its an constitutional state.
so do, what u´re supposed to do: complain

the case with the carpet: your configuration, ergo your potential configuration failure.

thank god you can fix this easy and cheap. just put something like a acrylic sheet (or perspex, if u are british) under it. which is better, because the case cannot suck fibers, if there are no fibers in direct airstream.
and in every case: once/twice per year is cleaning time, hopefully.
i myself tend to assemble the psu with the fan above in case of carpet/textiles.
if the case is properly vented, that is no problem at all.

the case pf positive/negative pressure:
positive pressure, you put more air volume in than out:
can be a litte tricky with airflow, but the case breathes out through every gap, so it will not suck dust to this gaps.
negative pressure, you put less air volume in than out:
easy airflow, but the case will suck dust to the gaps. and you will see this as soon as after a few days.

negative is more easy, but the extended cleaning sucks.
 
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I don't actually have this specific case, but I do have opinions...


I don't really see a design flaw in the PSU bottom intake. It could be improved, but it's not inherently unusuable either.

Going by memory, most cases don't have the PSU raised much above the bottom grill. The feet also look to be just about average height.

On hard floor or even short-haired 'office' carpet, there is no issue. It's only when you put the case on shag carpet where the feet can sink deep into the material that you have a problem... but this is not unique to computers and finding a spacer / board / other raised platform to sit the case is something I'd consider due diligence and the price of owning deep pile carpet.
(Or, I suppose, if you have pets that shed a ton or you can't be bothered to keep the house clean. But in that case, if the filter gets clogged beyond use, it's a result of negligence.)

A difficult to remove filter is annoying, but if it requires weekly cleaning due to dust clogging, your home requires more care than you're giving it. Have you considered a vacuum robot? Having one run through the house while I'm at work really helped my lazy ass.

A big part of all the other problems you mention in the video is a clear case of production cost cutting. Silverstone is clearly getting the absolute maximum they can out of a single sheet of stamped metal, with folded edges for stability and raised bumps for the PSU to rest on and no parts that require extra steps.


From my perspective, I'm far more annoyed that the bottom zone shroud above the PSU has no perforations at all. This prevents you from using any semi-fanless or fanless PSUs, which makes the case not an option for me.
 
I just checked and my current case (fractal Define 7 XL) has a gap of about 5mm between the PSU and the floor of the case (honestly I expected it to be a little bit more), so that the PSU can get at least some air in case the filter gets clogged.

I am not sure how apparent it is in the video, but there is really NO GAP AT ALL under the PSU. The PSU does not communicate with the air inside the case so no positive pressure in the case can help with the airflow through the PSU much.

The feet are really small so even a carper with short hair would severely restrict the airflow, but of course putting a board of some sort unter the case is a solution.

Again - not sure how it shows in the video, but the PSU filter is REALLY FINE. I do not live in any particularly dusty part of the city and I do not have any high level of sauwitschaft in my home (actually now I do, but that is just temporary), but the kind of filter makes the combination of the no gap under the PSU and very small feet much worse.

I have no idea how well technically minded an average PC builder is to realise that this PC case REALLY CANNOT be placed on the carper and the hard to reach filter REALLY NEEDS to be cleaned regularly.

I think this case desing can lead to a lot of PSU overheatings and connected problems.
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I just filmed the other problems I discovered so far:


This is indeed an early unit, it is serial number 20.
 
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BoggledBeagle schrieb:
I have no idea how well technically minded an average PC builder is to realise that this PC case REALLY CANNOT be placed on the carper and the hard to reach filter REALLY NEEDS to be cleaned regularly.
You know those warning labels on the air outlet of an electrical heater?...

Those kinds of idiot is what over temperature protection is for. Both in the heater and in your PC's PSU.
 
If we presume 500W power draw and 90% efficiency, the PSU must dissipate 50W. I think just by mixing the air inside the box and getting some little bit of air from the outside output vents, it can stay below any safety temp cutout. It will just operate much hotter and noisier, than if it had proper air flow. That may lead to speeding up aging of some electronic components and the PSU can simply fail by come component breaking - capacitor exploding, etc. The PC may appear fully functional and then unexpectedly fail catastrophically.
 
No wonder the Turbo button was getting stuck: it had this lip or step in the hole in the way. After I smoothed the inside of the hole the button now works well.


flp turbo botton.jpg

The pads from cheap looking foam material under the PSU got completely squished after only a day the PSU lay on it and the PSU was lying on the metal bottom. My suspition that it looked wrong was correct.

It is weird to be a tester for a company and pay for it instead of getting payed.

I have no idea what the producer plans to do with these early crappy cases.
 
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