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Hallo zusammen,

nach langer Zeit habe ich mir mal wieder eine neue Festplatte gekauft. Eine Seagate Exos X24 (ST24000NM002H).

Die Platte kam ohne erkennbare Versandschäden an. Nach dem Einbau habe ich erstmal ein paar TB an Daten draufgeschoben und dann mal mit CrystalDiskInfo einen Blick auf die Smart Daten geworfen. Die Read Error Rate und die Seek Error Rate gefallen mir nicht und der Rohwert schwankt auch im Betrieb.

Seagate Exos X24.png

(Die maximale Laufwerkstemperatur von 46°C liegt daran, dass ich anfangs das Kabel vom Lüfter vor den HDDs nicht wieder gesteckt hatte... Habe ich nach 2 Stunden bemerkt. Danach lief sie wieder bei gemütlichen 30 °C. Das dürfte für die 2h vollkommen egal sein. Nur falls sich jemand wundert.)

Ich habe wenig Erfahrung mit "modernen" Platten >6 TB. Ist da eine solche Read / Seek Error Rate normal oder ist das ein Grund, die Platte zurückzuschicken? Hat da jemand Erfahrung oder vergleichswerte einer Exos X24?

(Die Daten liegen noch sicher auf 2 weiteren Platten. Es geht also nicht um Datenrettung, sondern nur darum, ob ich der Platte langfristig vertrauen möchte. Ganz günstig ist so ein 24 TB Monstrum ja nicht.)

Vielen Dank für eure Einschätzung.

Joshy
 
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In diese Werte lieber nicht zuviel rein interpretieren.

Dann lieber vollen Oberflächentest und Daten Integrität an sich prüfen. Und ob es wirklich Neuware ist u Garantie abgedeckt ist
 
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Die Rates sind bei Seagate Platten normal, die Datenspeicherung und Berecnungen der tatsächlichen Werte erfolgt dort anders. Das kann man problemlos nachlesen.
 
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Guter Hinweis. Die Masche mit den gebrauchten HDDs hatte ich tatsächlich noch nicht mitbekommen. Diese HDD ist aber anscheinend nicht betroffen. Die FARM Daten sehen unauffällig aus und auch das gerade einmal ~20 Wochen alte Herstelldatum lässt nicht so viel Raum für Gebrauchtware. Oder übersehe ich etwas? Hier die Ausgabe von smartmontools:

C:\Program Files\smartmontools\bin>smartctl -l farm /dev/sdd
smartctl 7.5 2025-04-30 r5714 [x86_64-w64-mingw32-w10-22H2] (AppVeyor)
Copyright (C) 2002-25, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

Seagate Field Access Reliability Metrics log (FARM) (GP Log 0xa6)
FARM Log Page 0: Log Header
FARM Log Version: 4.41
Pages Supported: 6
Log Size: 98304
Page Size: 16384
Heads Supported: 24
Number of Copies: 0
Reason for Frame Capture: 0
FARM Log Page 1: Drive Information
Serial Number: ZYD[...]
World Wide Name: 0x5000c500fad6e5a6
Device Interface: SATA
Device Capacity in Sectors: 46875541504
Physical Sector Size: 4096
Logical Sector Size: 512
Device Buffer Size: 536870912
Number of Heads: 20
Device Form Factor: 3.5 inches
Rotation Rate: 7200 rpm
Firmware Rev: SE05
ATA Security State (ID Word 128): 0x01621
ATA Features Supported (ID Word 78): 0x016cc
ATA Features Enabled (ID Word 79): 0x0000000000000040
Power on Hours: 31
Spindle Power on Hours: 22
Head Flight Hours: 22
Head Load Events: 32
Power Cycle Count: 7
Hardware Reset Count: 26
Spin-up Time: 4 ms
Time to ready of the last power cycle: 21609 ms
Time drive is held in staggered spin: 0 ms
Model Number: ST24000NM002H-3KS133
Drive Recording Type: CMR
Max Number of Available Sectors for Reassignment: 18204
Assembly Date (YYWW): 2515
Depopulation Head Mask: 0
FARM Log Page 2: Workload Statistics
Total Number of Read Commands: 25920
Total Number of Write Commands: 24081763
Total Number of Random Read Commands: 1316
Total Number of Random Write Commands: 4153440
Total Number Of Other Commands: 325
Logical Sectors Written: 12265356434
Logical Sectors Read: 5991656
Number of dither events during current power cycle: 1
Number of times dither was held off during random workloads: 8
Number of times dither was held off during sequential workloads: 0
Number of Read commands from 0-3.125% of LBA space for last 3 SMART Summary Frames: 14671
Number of Read commands from 3.125-25% of LBA space for last 3 SMART Summary Frames: 12
Number of Read commands from 25-75% of LBA space for last 3 SMART Summary Frames: 0
Number of Read commands from 75-100% of LBA space for last 3 SMART Summary Frames: 15
Number of Write commands from 0-3.125% of LBA space for last 3 SMART Summary Frames: 2972378
Number of Write commands from 3.125-25% of LBA space for last 3 SMART Summary Frames: 12123520
Number of Write commands from 25-75% of LBA space for last 3 SMART Summary Frames: 0
Number of Write commands from 75-100% of LBA space for last 3 SMART Summary Frames: 0
FARM Log Page 3: Error Statistics
Unrecoverable Read Errors: 0
Unrecoverable Write Errors: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors: 0
Number of Read Recovery Attempts: 0
Number of Mechanical Start Failures: 0
Number of Reallocated Candidate Sectors: 0
Number of ASR Events: 0
Number of Interface CRC Errors: 0
Spin Retry Count: 0
Spin Retry Count Normalized: 100
Spin Retry Count Worst: 100
Number of IOEDC Errors (Raw): 0
CTO Count Total: 3
CTO Count Over 5s: 0
CTO Count Over 7.5s: 0
Total Flash LED (Assert) Events: 0
Index of the last Flash LED: 0
Flash LED Event 0:
Event Information: 0x0000000000000000
Timestamp of Event 0 (hours): 0
Power Cycle Event 0: 0
Flash LED Event 1:
Event Information: 0x0000000000000000
Timestamp of Event 1 (hours): 0
Power Cycle Event 1: 0
Flash LED Event 2:
Event Information: 0x0000000000000000
Timestamp of Event 2 (hours): 0
Power Cycle Event 2: 0
Flash LED Event 3:
Event Information: 0x0000000000000000
Timestamp of Event 3 (hours): 0
Power Cycle Event 3: 0
Flash LED Event 4:
Event Information: 0x0000000000000000
Timestamp of Event 4 (hours): 0
Power Cycle Event 4: 0
Flash LED Event 5:
Event Information: 0x0000000000000000
Timestamp of Event 5 (hours): 0
Power Cycle Event 5: 0
Flash LED Event 6:
Event Information: 0x0000000000000000
Timestamp of Event 6 (hours): 0
Power Cycle Event 6: 0
Flash LED Event 7:
Event Information: 0x0000000000000000
Timestamp of Event 7 (hours): 0
Power Cycle Event 7: 0
Uncorrectable errors: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read errors due to ERC: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 0:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 1:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 2:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 3:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 4:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 5:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 6:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 7:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 8:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 9:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 10:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 11:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 12:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 13:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 14:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 15:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 16:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 17:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 18:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 19:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
FARM Log Page 4: Environment Statistics
Current Temperature (Celsius): 28
Highest Temperature: 46
Lowest Temperature: 29
Average Short Term Temperature: 0
Average Long Term Temperature: 0
Highest Average Short Term Temperature: 0
Lowest Average Short Term Temperature: 0
Highest Average Long Term Temperature: 0
Lowest Average Long Term Temperature: 0
Time In Over Temperature (minutes): 0
Time In Under Temperature (minutes): 0
Specified Max Operating Temperature: 60
Specified Min Operating Temperature: 5
Current Relative Humidity: 0
Current Motor Power: 5155
Current 12 volts: 11.695
Minimum 12 volts: 11.693
Maximum 12 volts: 11.742
Current 5 volts: 5.052
Minimum 5 volts: 5.028
Maximum 5 volts: 5.052
12V Power Average: 0.000
12V Power Minimum: 0.246
12V Power Maximum: 16.327
5V Power Average: 0.000
5V Power Minimum: 0.246
5V Power Maximum: 7.291
FARM Log Page 5: Reliability Statistics
Error Rate (SMART Attribute 1 Raw): 0x00000000027a90bd
Error Rate (SMART Attribute 1 Normalized): 76
Error Rate (SMART Attribute 1 Worst): 66
Seek Error Rate (SMART Attr 7 Raw): 0x0000000000342886
Seek Error Rate (SMART Attr 7 Normalized): 65
Seek Error Rate (SMART Attr 7 Worst): 60
High Priority Unload Events: 4
Helium Pressure Threshold Tripped: 0
LBAs Corrected By Parity Sector: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 0: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 1: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 2: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 3: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 4: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 5: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 6: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 7: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 8: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 9: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 10: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 11: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 12: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 13: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 14: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 15: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 16: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 17: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 18: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 19: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 0: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 1: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 2: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 3: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 4: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 5: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 6: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 7: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 8: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 9: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 10: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 11: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 12: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 13: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 14: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 15: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 16: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 17: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 18: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 19: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 0: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 1: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 2: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 3: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 4: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 5: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 6: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 7: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 8: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 9: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 10: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 11: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 12: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 13: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 14: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 15: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 16: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 17: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 18: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 19: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 0: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 1: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 2: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 3: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 4: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 5: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 6: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 7: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 8: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 9: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 10: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 11: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 12: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 13: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 14: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 15: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 16: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 17: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 18: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 19: 0
Write Power On (sec) by Head 0: 1019
Write Power On (sec) by Head 1: 942
Write Power On (sec) by Head 2: 997
Write Power On (sec) by Head 3: 993
Write Power On (sec) by Head 4: 1015
Write Power On (sec) by Head 5: 986
Write Power On (sec) by Head 6: 979
Write Power On (sec) by Head 7: 983
Write Power On (sec) by Head 8: 1112
Write Power On (sec) by Head 9: 1023
Write Power On (sec) by Head 10: 998
Write Power On (sec) by Head 11: 980
Write Power On (sec) by Head 12: 1020
Write Power On (sec) by Head 13: 957
Write Power On (sec) by Head 14: 962
Write Power On (sec) by Head 15: 1005
Write Power On (sec) by Head 16: 986
Write Power On (sec) by Head 17: 1053
Write Power On (sec) by Head 18: 1046
Write Power On (sec) by Head 19: 1021
MR Head Resistance from Head 0: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 1: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 2: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 3: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 4: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 5: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 6: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 7: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 8: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 9: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 10: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 11: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 12: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 13: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 14: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 15: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 16: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 17: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 18: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 19: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 0: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 1: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 2: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 3: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 4: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 5: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 6: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 7: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 8: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 9: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 10: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 11: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 12: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 13: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 14: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 15: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 16: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 17: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 18: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 19: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 0: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 1: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 2: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 3: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 4: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 5: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 6: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 7: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 8: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 9: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 10: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 11: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 12: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 13: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 14: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 15: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 16: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 17: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 18: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 19: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 0: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 1: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 2: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 3: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 4: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 5: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 6: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 7: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 8: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 9: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 10: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 11: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 12: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 13: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 14: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 15: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 16: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 17: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 18: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 19: 0

Mojo1987 schrieb:
Die Rates sind bei Seagate Platten normal, die Datenspeicherung und Berecnungen der tatsächlichen Werte erfolgt dort anders. Das kann man problemlos nachlesen.
Zum Vergrößern anklicken....
Verstehe ich das richtig: Wenn CrstylDiskInfo bei Read Error Rate bei einer fast neuen Platte als "worst" einen Wert von 66 anzeigt und "threshold" bei 44 liegt, dann sind die Daten für eine Seagate Platte nicht aussagekräftig, weil CrystalDiskInfo die Rohwerte falsch interpretiert?

Meine beiden alten 6 TB Toshiba HDWE160 mit >20.000h zeigen da halt noch Rohwerte von 0 an. Da verunsichert so ein Wert bei einer neuen Platte ein wenig.

Ich werde mal schauen, ob ich da einen guten Artikel zu SMART Daten bei Seagate finde. Hast du direkt eine Leseempfehlung?

Schon mal vielen Dank für eure Kommentare. Ich möchte ja auch keine eigentlich heile Platte zurückschicken, denn das ist für den Händler natürlich alles andere als schön und verursacht auch Kosten.
 
Alles gut, mach dir keine Sorgen, sterben wird sie trotzdem, irgendwann, kann man nix machen, viel Spaß
 
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Sunweb schrieb:
Zusammengefasst,
die ersten 4 Stellen sind die Errors (hier:0000), die anderen 8 Stellen sind Sektor Reads.
Und das sich die Reads im laufenden Betrieb verändern sollte klar sein.
Zum Vergrößern anklicken....
Danke, das war die für mich fehlende Info! Damit sind die Werte vollkommen nachvollziehbar.
 
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